kamon
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Post by kamon on Jan 18, 2019 22:40:35 GMT -5
I’m probably in the smallest of small minorities here, but I’ll be honest and say I don’t have much interest in grading my cards or buying graded cards. This is mainly because I think storage is awkward and if I’m going to go down that graded path, I know I wouldn’t be happy until the whole shebang was graded (mix of raw and graded would really irk me).
With that being said, if you’re a PSA 10 collector, more power to you. I got nothing against you.
For collectors like me, what do you think we should generally expect in terms of long term appreciation? I’m sure PSA 10s rise in value much faster than their raw, ungraded NM-M counterparts.
Despite collecting for years, I’ve really only been concerned with the values of missing pieces of my collection, so when I buy something, I hardly ever go back and make comparisons year over year. I started valuing things this past week in an Excel doc, but I don’t have the resources to know how ungraded cards have changed over the past, say, five years.
Anyway, this post seems like a bit of rambling. Appreciate any dropped knowledge.
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Post by yugiohcollectibles on Jan 19, 2019 21:45:44 GMT -5
I can see where you're coming from and there is definitely something desirable about holding the actual card in your hand rather than a psa case. LOB ungraded cards have gone through the roof, particularly the ultras. MFC dark magician girl and Dark paladin have also had insane growth in the last 2 years. The whole of the OG market has had significant growth but the highest growth is usually seen in the cards with greatest nostalgic value.
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Ghezzi_TCG
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Post by Ghezzi_TCG on Jan 21, 2019 12:25:35 GMT -5
I’m probably in the smallest of small minorities here, but I’ll be honest and say I don’t have much interest in grading my cards or buying graded cards. This is mainly because I think storage is awkward and if I’m going to go down that graded path, I know I wouldn’t be happy until the whole shebang was graded (mix of raw and graded would really irk me). With that being said, if you’re a PSA 10 collector, more power to you. I got nothing against you. For collectors like me, what do you think we should generally expect in terms of long term appreciation? I’m sure PSA 10s rise in value much faster than their raw, ungraded NM-M counterparts. Despite collecting for years, I’ve really only been concerned with the values of missing pieces of my collection, so when I buy something, I hardly ever go back and make comparisons year over year. I started valuing things this past week in an Excel doc, but I don’t have the resources to know how ungraded cards have changed over the past, say, five years. Anyway, this post seems like a bit of rambling. Appreciate any dropped knowledge. Very interesting topic actually. This has a lot of rabbit holes to go down but I want to talk about "How raw cards that are gradable (9/10) translate in the market." So IMHO (humble) raw cards are harder to get premiums on among other raw collectors. The problem with raw collectors selling a raw M/GM card to a raw collector is that GM (Gem Mint) doesn't really matter very much. Raw collectors want Mint and GM is a very special grade that is extremely hard to gauge with extremely minute differences to M. Even PSA does it incorrectly sometimes (in the sense that some people are more picky about their cards). Even among 10s, some 10s are better. My point being that the minute difference between M and GM are not understood entirely and GM to someone is not GM to someone else. With all that said I have a larger point here about your question... Will raw cards appreciate - Yes. As with all things, as long as the market remains healthy (adds more collectors and players) then the price of raw cards will rise as they suffer attrition. What I mean by that is this: people with poor collecting habits will buy older (GOAT) Mint cards and take care of them poorly and then make them NM or LP etc. Especially kids. What this does is decrease the available supply of NM/M/GM cards in the raw market. This also eventually will make GM PSA 10s harder to grade for sets that don't have a huge population. That's another topic entirely though. SO! yes I think so. Heres my issue with this in relation to PSA cards. The real money is in selling your gradable raw cards to PSA graders, because they will pay a premium for the chance. For some its a chance to add to their collection, for others its a chance to double their money. So here's the problem. These people don't always want to pay a premium for your cards and have an interest in seeing the raw market stagnate. This does two things (1) allows them to buy your cards cheaper, (2) keeps a disparity between graded and raw so that their margins are better. My point to this whole equation is this: (I have a few). 1. Raw cards will not increase in price dramatically as a whole because it is a stable market with easy access for people who don't care about very minute differences in condition. 2. Specific raw cards may see dramatic increases in price as graded copies go up in value. These will be sporadic. 3. If you sell your raw cards to another raw collector you will not get a premium for your cards that are in better condition than NM. Most of these people have no interest in that premium, so you would have to either justify the condition or find someone that cared. 4. If you sell to a graded collector you will get a premium for people looking to grade GM cards, if your cards are GM.
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